A few Februaries ago I posted a couplet of comments about a genre of antiRabbinic satire which the Christian gospels might have ascribed to their hero. The narrative-gospels can use only those stories as serve the narrative, which culminates at the Cross. I found interesting that Rabbinic literature dares name some of these antiRabbinic "trolls": some are in fact "Jesus", some are associated with the "Jesus" name in commentary.
What I hadn't yet done on this blog, and perhaps should have done, was discuss Bar Pantera / Bar Panθera. Peter Schäfer made his name discussing possible references in, especially, the (Babylonian) Talmud. Schäfer figured that the 'Iraq/Χάραξ being ruled by nonAbrahamics would allow complete rein to anyone wanting to get some licks in at the Christians, especially after the whole Roman East became Christian.
That does not show where Jews took up that ?happy task however. Christopher Zeichmann, who seems like no Jew, last June posted the lack of evidence for any of that. Of all the trolls whose names later rabbis could possibly associate with the Gospel Jesus, none of these names - in the basis stories - seem to be doing anything as has Gospel parallel. Not even with the vignettes in "Thomas", whose living Jesus doesn't pass through the Cross.
If I can say that the Gospel Jesus incorporates a pastiche of antiRabbinic controversy, Zeichmann can say that the Talmudic Jesus-es are also pastiche. Some might be Bar Panthera. Some might be Bar Stada. None of them have to be of the Tiberius / Sejanus / Pilate imperium. Sure, some Jews may have made some connexion. But that seems to be later. It might even be more Celsus - pagan - than any Abrahamic who'd jammed these stories into the Gospel, most.
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