Friday, June 28, 2024

Always at war with Eurasia - but which Eurasia?

This blog has over its lifespan noted how Bryant, Taylor, Suvorov, and lately McMeekin have argued for a grand-plan of Stalin's evil and Hitler's... lesser evil. Also-lately Michael Jabara Carley is arguing Stalin's case; has been for the past couple years.

Carley doesn't deal with the "Holodomor", concentrating on foreign-policy as he does; so defers to the second volume of Kotkin’s biography of Stalin (tag: ref=nosim?tag=postil17-20). Kotkin would have the famine as not focused on the Ukraine on account the Kazakhstan was hit harder. Personally I'd pondered if the Ukrainian side was Stalin's fault, or the fault of others in the Party; Snyder's Bloodlands recognised that Stalin was the man in charge by then, but seemed more to implicate (often Jewish) underlings.

On what Carley gets right as I can check: he notes that Stalin's foreign-office in 1933 wasn't Trotsky's in 1918. Trotsky's Comintern absolutely was an aggressive force making moves toward Hungary, and as far as possible Germany (Munich was Soviet, other states more homegrown). By the 1930s, I don't think Stalin was trying so hard. Spain did become a Thing but even here, Stalin was more interested in looting the place, purging antiStalinists, and testing armaments than in giving real support (not unlike Nappy-3 in 1864 Mexico...).

Taylor / Carley would seem to disagree mostly about the antisemitic fascist states between Russia and Germany, specifically Poland. For Taylor, Poland - especially Beck - hated the NSDAP and Germans, and (foolishly) calculated on Britain and France, to keep Danzig out of German hands and to "encourage" Germans (and Jews) to leave Poland. Carley by contrast would have Poland as "pro-German" although even he cannot call the two states "all[ies]".

Personally I think Taylor had more the right of it. Carley notes that the Soviets saw a war coming with Germany. That rather undercuts any case against Suvorov et al. Also I find hard to credit Carley that the West had any reason to trust Stalin as they observed he'd come up through Lenin's party, had overseen the famines, had meddled in Spain and murdered Trotsky himself. Even commies like "Orwell" Blair were warning everybody not to trust this man. Why should Carley trust him?

I Question-The-Timing of Vox Day bringing up Carley in 2024 when this interview came out December 2022. I wonder what happened between 2021 and 2024 which might cause a round of Russia-rehabilitation in Beale's side of the 'web...?

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