Northern "Serbian" DNA

Yesterday the Turtle posted about Bronze Age DNA from what's now northern Serbia - Mokrin, prettymuch the tip.

It's R1b-Z2103 with a touch of J2b. R1b is associated to the older, nonAryan IndoEuropean populations like us Bell-Beakers; Z2103 an ancient branch (15 kBC!) more typical of Shqiptarët called "Albanians" by us Latins. The J2b, more Near Eastern, is presumed L283, also common to modern Albania. The J2b had likely got here first. As to language, J2b may have spoken an "Afro Asiatic" tongue but the great Indo-European migrations swamped that out.

Both modern Albanians and modern Serbs speak Indo-European languages today, and they've grown up together in a Sprachbund. However. The Slavic peoples trend more to R1a. That the north shore of the Danube was Shqiptarët implies most of the Morava, and especially the Ibër watershed was protoAlbanian well into the Iron Age.

We shouldn't identify this with classical "Illyria". The Adriatic southern neck spoke Messapic and Doric, the north was exposed to Etruscan dialects and in between, of course, Italic owned the Italian shore. Historic precedent suggests that who owns Venice has a claim on the Dalmatian seafolk. I'll leave others to haggle over "Illyrians".

I'm talking about the land which these data describe, the latterly eastern-Yugoslav inland. I'm talking about eastern Kosovo and the Ibër to the north. And frankly I'm talking about the people there, who weren't Slavs and weren't Serbs until Late Antiquity. (At a guess, the Ibër was protoTosk and the Danube was paraGheg.)

There were many Milosevics in the Serbian nation's past, steadily driving the Shqiptarët south. And yes, it was population-replacement.